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is the romney/ryan ticket is not credible on the issue of the war that we are fighting. >> no, they're not. >> we have 68,000 people right now, paul ryan embarrassed himself on afghanistan tonight in a way he embarrassed himself on no other issue. he did not understand the question well enough to know that he was making a mistake because he's just learned this for the test. he doesn't understand any of it. i find it terrifying. >> i think that he absolutely blew it in terms of afghanistan. i think even when he said marines in benghazi, when marines are at embassies. and, i mean, he also bent the truth. he's not at the level of liar as romney. he's a fibber. growing to be a liar. romney's an accomplished liar. but i think that clearly mr. biden gave facts. there was nothing they could refute. and i think he was fiery and to the point. i think ryan held his right wing position. he did not do the chameleon thing that romney did. >> that's true. >> i think it will hurt him in the end and hurt romney in the end and i think when it came especially to foreign affairs, it's good it was in a colleg
romney called paul ryan today as well, wished him luck. both sides gearing up for this. you mentioned that achille's foot. some analysts say in this kind of format, the vice president won't slip up. >> in debates, particularly against sarah palin four years ago, he was pretty disciplined. i think republicans would be unwise to count on a biden gaffe occurring during this debate. >> senior democrat told me a short time ago where the vice president does get in trouble is not in this format, but a tv interview and he starts winding around and telling a long story and goes off message. another thing to watch tonight is that this is not just domestic policy like the first debate. it's foreign policy as well. that terrorist attack in libya could come up tonight for the first time in one of these debates. >> shep: yeah, i would be surprised if it didn't. what's the obama campaign telling you about the strategy and taking on congressman ryan? >> they're saying to me in private that he's not really just taking on congressman ryan. the plan, the strategy is to go after the top of the ticket in
is to tie governor mitt romney -- sorry, tie governor romney to the ryan budget. and as one top democrat put it to me, the idea is to make the case that romney/ryan in electing that ticket means americans would be electing the intellectual leader of the house republicans, as one person put it, that paul ryan is the intellectual leader of the house republicans and he should not be able tonight to duck from any specifics. so, again, we will hear that word, specifics. and look for the vice president to try to get paul ryan to talk about budget details in this debate tonight, wolf. >> jessica, has the vice president done his tour of the actual debate hall yet? >> reporter: he has. he did that tour a little earlier today before 2:00 p.m. he sat in the chair. he looked at the monitor where you get your time cues. and i'm told all that went smoothly. he also before he boarded the plane today leaving from delaware he talked to reporters and he was asked what is his strategy. take a listen to what he said. >> i'm looking forward to it. nice of you guys to be here. are you on the plane with us? all ri
. in a little bit mitt romney teams up with congressman paul ryan in the swing state of ohio. and you're going to see their rally live right here in "the situation room." already today romney's called his running mate's debate performance thoughtful respectful, steady and poised. our national political correspondent jim acosta has more now on the republican's post debate spin. >> reporter: wolf, even though paul ryan said he saw it coming republican strategists i talk to in the post debate spin room said they were not expecting joe biden's repeated interruptions and laugh out lud style. if the vice president's performance could be summed up as lol, the republican response was omg. >> i'm great. >> reporter: at breakfast after his fiery debate with vice president joe biden, paul ryan still had his sunny side up. >> no. it's what i expected. [ laughter ] >> reporter: ryan offered no complaints about biden's aggressive performance. which appeared to be designed to put some sorely needed points on the president's scoreboard, whether it was on ryan's past request for stimulu
. >> reporter: or ryan's attempt to compare the mitt romney tax plan to jack kennedy's. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: ryan was able to fire back with a few zingers of his own. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> reporter: republicans in the post debate spin room tried to make the case biden failed not only on style. >> quite frankly i was embarrassed for the vice president. i mean, the laughs. we counted 82 times that joe biden interrupted paul ryan. >> reporter: but also on substance pointing to the vice president's response on whether there was adequate security before the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. >> and they wanted more security there. >> well, we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security. >> we just had a major hearing on this. that was one of the heart -- the heart of the point was these requests went unheated. and obviously
, certainly we're looking to see if joe biden can stem the tide here. certainly it's in favor of the romney-ryan ticket. why is there all of this boxing terminology going on? well, take a look at this. this is one of the posters here for sale at center college. this is being set up with a lot of boxing terminology. perhaps that's part of it. also, suzanne, i wanted to tell you a little bit about that photo that we put up there earlier. if we can show that again because that's something that only cnn has. you can only see it right here. it's an exclusive look. >> if you don't recognize the guy on the right, that is chris van holland. he is the ranking democrat. the top democrat on the house budget committee. he knows paul ryan because he is the budget chairman of that committee. you're seeing the back of the head of shayla murray. that is the communications director for the vice president. >> she's been playing martha are aedditz. the biden team went to great lengths to replicate the conditions that the vice president will face here in danville, kentucky. that table, which is a semicircle with a
de.t. e ng ly voters and romney-ryan ticket with one-point lead within the marginf error. among independent voters changed significantly. 44 to #he y.at b s. e, promised, your thoughts on how the race has shifted as we get ready to head to danville, kencky, tomorrow for the vice presidential debate? >> i think, evidence in the president's meants right there. i think theyon't kwow erhi de sha itee surge. it looks like sustained surge. you seen the white house scram to believe come up with an answer. first they said he was too conservative, then a flip-floper and then it was about big bird and he wasn't ri tnem waio wreas, they spent most of the campaign arguing that ryan and romney were radical, they wanted to overturn medicare, redo medicare. they just can't find their threoi b t solidumso emthomis a liar. the media amplified it. but it's not convincing argument when you have 70 million people watching wh ry s >> bret: they tried to jump on the statement that he made and romney saying there is no legislation with regard to abortion that i'm familiar with tt would become part of
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vision. governor romney, the opposite. the last thing we need now is another war. >> congressman ryan? >> we mourn the loss of these four americans who were murdered. when you take a look at what's happened in the last few weeks, they sent the u.n. ambassador out to say that this was because of a protest and a youtube video. it took the president two weeks to acknowledge that this was a terrorist attack. he went to the u.n. and in his speech at the u.n. he said six times, he talked about the youtube video. look, if we're hit by terrorists, we're going to call it for what it is, a terrorist attack. our ambassador in paris has a marine detachment guarding him. shouldn't we have a marine detachment guarding our ambassador in benghazi, a place we knew there was an al qaeda cell with arms? this is becoming more troubling by the day. they first blamed the youtube video. now they're trying to blame the romney-ryan ticket for make -- making this an issue. with respect to iraq, we had the same position before the withdrawal, which was we agreed with the obama administration. let's secure our g
video. now they're trying to blame the romney-ryan ticket for make -- making this an issue. with respect to iraq, we had the same position before the withdrawal, which was we agreed with the obama administration. let's secure our gains. the vice president was put in charge of the negotiations by president obama and they failed to get the agreement. we don't have a status of forces agreement because they failed to get one. that's what we were talking about. when it comes to the veterans, we owe them a great debt of gratitude, for what they've done for us, including your son, bo. >> thank you. >> but we also want to make sure we don't lose the things we fought so hard to get. and we agreed with the 2014 transition in afghanistan. but what we also want to do is make sure we're not projecting weakness abroad. that's what's happening here. this benghazi issue would be a tragedy in and of itself. but unfortunately, it's indicative of a broader problem, and that is what we're watching on our tv screens is the unraveling of the obama foreign policy, which is making things more chaotic and us les
. they first blamed the youtube video. now they're frying to blame the romney-ryan ticket for make thing an issue. with respect to iraq, we had the same position before the withdrawal, which was we agreed with the obama administration. the vice president was put in charge of the negotiations by president obama and they failed to get the agreement. we don't have a status of forces agreement because they failed to get one. that's what we were talking about. when it comes to the veterans, we owe them a great debt of gratitude, including your some, bo. >> thank you. >> but we also want to make sure we don't lose the things we fought so hard to get. and we agreed with the 2014 transition in afghanistan. but what we also want to do is make sure we're not projecting weakness abroad. this benghazi issue would be a tragedy in and of itself. but unfortunately, it's indicative of a broader problem, and that is what we're watching is the unraveling of the obama foreign policy, which is making things more chaotic and us let safe. >> i want to talk to you right in the middle of the crisis, governor ro
can't attack. he has to defend. if it had gone well, he could have attacked ryan and romney. now he has to defend the president. >> well, i disagree completely because here's the problem with that. this mitt romney's the same mitt romney that we've known for the last six or seven months, the same mitt romney that voters very cautious with the last six or seven months. it's not about defending the president, it's about taking the fight to mitt romney making them defend, that fantasy show he put on during the other debate where he made stuff up and didn't know his own tax plan, making them stick to what they've been the last six or seven months. >> this is where i think paul ryan will have pressure on him and where i expect paul ryan to perform very well. i mean, i found obama's debate performance totally lacking in specifics. we still don't know what his tax plan is or his deficit plan or his budget plan. but paul ryan has become the personification for the democrats of all that is callous and cold and evil about the romney campaign. so ryan now has i think an opportunity to not only
cnn exclusive interviews. my one-on-one with mitt romney and his running mate paul ryan speaks with dana bash. and another round of bitter partisan bickering breaking out as congress discloses new details about the attack on the u.s. diplomatic compounds in benghazi. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> with just 27 days to go until the presidential election, we begin with mitt romney's bumpy day out there on the campaign trail. first, his campaign had to clarify something romney said earlier about abortion later. they said romney will stop telling a new story apparently designed to show his softer side. cnn's national political correspondent jim acosta is in ohio right now on the road with the romney campaign. >> reporter: wolf, mitt romney's been trying to open up to voters in recent days telling stories of friends who have died, even service members who have died in combat. but the mother of one falling navy s.e.a.l.s. says she's offended as democrats accuse romney of trying to hide his true beliefs. it's been a staple of the stump speeches, the gop nominee
paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go after the budget cuts and troo to tag mitt romney with the severity, using the term relatively, of the ryan budget cuts. >> right. rom uh any down played the ryan road map. keep in mind the first ryan budget plan included privatizing social security, at least to a certain extent. that's something ryan then dropped in his subsequent budgets. it was there and he was one of the advocates of the plan to put it in the market. secondly the medicare issue. those entitlements, we'll ha from biden about thursday. a lot of democrats think he dropped the ball not pushing the issues against mitt romney. joe biden will read ryan's book and go after those entitlements. >> up next, as mitt romney focuses on foreign policy we'll get a reality check on the challenges abroad. [ female announcer ] most whitening strips promise full whitening results in two weeks or more.
showdown only days away. new poll numbers show governor romney with a post-debate bump. paul ryan getting ready for the faceoff against joe biden in the next big debate. i'm bill hemmer here. martha has the day off. >> i'm patti ann browne in for mart maing that -- martha maccallum. a veteran political strategist says joe biden will be going for the throat. >> they will be pouring cola down his throat. they will react. because they will have a couple days of bad polling. ryan has very impressive but hasn't done this before. biden who is high-wire act in attack mode which is not always his normal place. bill: joe cola. fox news contributor, good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: you believe this is huge opportunity for romney-ryan, why? >> it is. romney set the stage for the dominant victory over the president in the first presidential debate. that changed the story of the whole campaign. if you have ryan defeating the vice president joe biden it would really create a story of obama-biden on the ropes. and, romney-ryan on the move. bill: the way mike murphy explains it, republic
believe this is huge opportunity for romney-ryan, why? >> it is. romney set the stage for the dominant victory over the president in the first presidential debate. that changed the story of the whole campaign. if you have ryan defeating the vice president joe biden it would really create a story of obama-biden on the ropes. and, romney-ryan on the move. bill: the way mike murphy explains it, republican strategist on "meet the press" sunday morning, democrats could be desperate. do you agree with that? >> they're certainly very worried. the degree of concern they had over the president's performance in denver is much deeper than we even thought. they're very, very worried about that. they're looking for joe biden to come out and deliver a lot of zingers and attack lines that barack obama didn't. this is the second chance in the presidential debate. there is not another actual presidential debate until october 16th. bill: listen how paul ryan explains how he sees vice president joe biden. >> he is fast on the cuff. he is a witty guy. he knows who he is and been doing this for 40 years. s
or didn't fully prosecute the issue against romney, biden will do so against ryan. it's the entitlements, it's the auto bailout, and i think also it's the issues around romney. perhaps the income taxes, his 47% comments. this is going to be, i think, a full-throated joe biden thursday night in kentucky, and i think what they also want to do, the biden folks, is try to get ryan into the weeds. they want to get ryan in a conversation on math, to get to the sort of question as to whether or not the romney tax plan adds up. the ryan folks i talked to want to keep it at 20,000 feet. they want ryan to stick with the romney-like message of jobs and the economy, sound centrist, don't get too far out there in some sort of ideological makers versus takers debate. >> everybody that's ever worked for many years in an industrial company or any kind, joan, fears the guy like paul ryan to show up. he comes in, and he's the efficiency expert. he's the cost cutter. he comes in looking for people to fire, you know? everybody hates him. can he make him look like that guy or can he wag his tail and seem lik
of question as to whether or not the romney tax plan adds up. the ryan folks i talked to want to keep it at 20,000 feet. they want ryan to stick with the romney-like message of jobs and the economy, sound centrist, don't get too far out there in some sort of ideological makers versus takers debate. >> everybody that's ever worked for many years in industrial company or any kind, joan, fears the guy like paul ryan to show up. he comes in and he's the efficiency expert. he's the cost cutter. he comes in looking for people to fire, you know? everybody hates him. can he make him look like that guy or can he wag his tail and seem like he's the cute younger guy and get away with that? >> i don't think he really needs -- you should think about wagging his tail and being the cute younger guy, chris, because then you really do have this amazing stature gap between the two men. there's an age gap, an experience gap. i don't think paul rye yaen can afford to look cute and fuzzy. i think this is teed up perfectly for joe biden. all the things we talked about last week we wished the president might have th
that had paul ryan on the telephone. he called up the actress who was attacked for supporting mitt romney. you think president obama will do the same thing for sandra fluck. >> brian: forget halloween and politics it is all about the october surprise. starting with this guy and it happened every year since. what will it be in 2012? if i knew i wouldn't ruin it for you. "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> steve: you know what could be an october surprise is if big bird comes out and said he is for mitt romney. >> gretchen: the people at sesame street said they are not for any cand date. they don't want esident obama's adto continue to run and they are asking for it to come down. >> brian: obama people are thinking about it >> maybe that is because it was panned by both sides of the aisle. >> brian: we listened to it on radio yesterday. it sounds like steven colbear or jon stewart it sounds like a total comedy nothing to do with either side. >> steve: they feature three people from wall street, evil villians. >> brian: madav and ken lay. >> steve: all indicted
media attention to do the numbers on the romney/ryan budget. you're looking at billions of dollars and less in investments in the states. about $4.5 billion less a year in ohio and in virginia alone. they're going to have to go out to constituents and explain why they're raising taxes or cutting benefits. huge implications for state and local budgets based on what's decided this year. and that's often what really hits the kitchen table more. >> i see you voted today. >> i did vote in virginia today. >> who did you vote for? that's the question. >> for president obama and for governor kaye. >> i'll take a more apolitical attack. bud selig and the powers that be in major league baseball. we had the debut of the one-game wild card playoff. baseball added an extra wild card this year. the very first game, the braves versus the cardinals, ended up being decided by a blown umpire's call in the eighth inning. and fans were throwing garbage on the field and it was a lousy error-ridden game to begin with. bud selig, this is a sign from the baseball gods, the one-game two wild card playoff i
taken after the first presidential showdown. according to the "fox news poll" the romney ryan ticket got a boost jumping three points while the obama-biden ticket dropped three. the impact of the debate seems greater among independents with that voting bloc jumping five points in support of team romney while team obama dropped 7 points. president obama's opinion stayed the same after the debate while gove romney's rose four percentage points. that gives him a one point lead. still when you factor in the margin of error it is still too close to call. how did the president and governor romney did at the debate? both are weighing in. >> well, governor romney i had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> well, it is not the first time i've had a bad night. >> well, obviously the president wasn't happy with the response to our debate last night. >> what's your message to joe biden about tomorrow night? >> well i, you know, i think joe just needs to be joe. jon: joining us now is karl rove, former senior advisor and deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and a fox news contr
. >> please, go right ahead. bill: romney, and obama go next week. but thursday night is ryan and biden. now, i don't know. this could be a cage match, tanteros. i mean, biden taken six days of the trail. he is in some undisclosed location east of the chesapeake bay. what is your expectation for thursday night? >> they have him muzzled like hannibal lecter with the mask on so he doesn't say anything silly. this will be bigger heated debate than three of us have every tuesday. pressure is on. unlike what bob is saying on this point, you heard him on "the five" debates don't matter. debates don't matter. he has been wrong. they will look to thursday night interested to see ryan will do. he is untested. bill: yes. >> he is so disciplined, bill. even though they will try to tie ryan i believe and romney together as much much as they can the ryan plan, ryan is such expert explaining it. that's what romney did so well last week. he explained his positions finally, so well when you're presented with facts all the obama campaign is left to do is just throw mud and call him a liar. >> facts. are you
believe and romney together as much much as they can the ryan plan, ryan is su expert explaining it. that's what romney did so well last week. he explained his positions finally, so well when you're presented with facts all the obama campaign is left to do is just throw mud and call him a liar. >> facts. are you kidding? first of all when ryan is disciplined, talks some minute next sales plummet. hear is the point. obama didn't go after romney on facts. what is your tax deductions you're talking about. he didn't say because he won't have any. biden will go after ryan their policy gay and get down to it. this will be like a cage match. biden will beat this guy like an empty drum. ryan is looking more like howdy doody every day. >> if romney was lying, rye romney lying so much why didn't the pet call him out. >> that is the point, andrea and he didn't. >> he couldn't. he couldn't argue facts. >> 9:00 a.m. on the 9th of october. roll this tape back on friday morning. >> we should do that. i just can't wait. >> by the way bob has been so grumpy lately, bill. >> i'm not grumpy at all. just bec
romney and paul ryan crisscrossing the important buckeye state that has chosen the past 12 presidents. will ohio though, buy the message they're selling? take a closer look. >> clayton: plus, this isn't something you see every day. police respond after more than 400 skate boarders take over hollywood boulevard. find out what they were protesting next. "fox & friends" begins right now. ♪ >> good sunday morning, everybody, not so much for the new york yankees. we'll tell you why in just a bit. not just a loss on the field, alisyn, a loss of historic proportions for them in terms of the leader, the the heart and soul of that have franchise for the last decade. >> alisyn: i can't wait to here that wow. >> clayton: and meanwhile, we've been following of course the investigation or the lack of investigation into the benghazi attack in libya, the terrorist attack and of course, now an investigation launched and announced on friday evening, and last night the mother of slain state department official sean smith on fox news channel speaking to judge janine pirro about this and the lack of i
they can elect you. >> steve: is calling mitt romney and ryan a good strategy. here to weigh in is washington insider amelia and democrat pollster marjorie. good morning to both of you. >> margey. it does sound like according to the new york times, 10 minutes before the end of the debate they were on a conference call talking about he stunk up the place. we'll have to go full steam ahead on a new attack and that is going to be romney is a liar. >> any time you hear mitt romney express different position than the day before it is for voters to know. we would be talking about mitt romney's loose interpretation of the facts regardless of what the people thought of the pet's performance. his own campaign walked back what romney said about covering people with preexisting conditions in the healthcare plan. >> marjorie wasn't the president lying when he repeatedly said mitt romney would raise taxes five trillion dollars. it will not be near five trillion wasn't that a lie. >> no it is not a lie because romney will not talk about the loop holes. he refuses to walk through the math.
as mitt romney. it's really on medicare especially, it's the ryan policies that obama is running against. and then lastly, i think what ryan and biden are defined by in a lot of ways and for biden, that's partially hit his gaffes. is he going to step in it? is there going to be some memorable sound bite from that debate? and ryan is known as the numbers guy. and the whole obama campaign now against romney and ryan is that the numbers on the republican side don't add up. so i think there's going to be pressure on ryan to explain the numbers or at least the obama folks are going to try and pressure ryan to explain the numbers. so these things usually don't matter. it's the undercard. but this time i think there could be a little more importance. >> i think you're exactly right. biden's actually a very good debater. he was very good during the democratic debates in '08. he beat barack obama every time. he is good in the debates, but boy, he can't afford to have an off night, can he? >> no. >> i mean, you talk about feeding into a narrative. i actually think paul ryan can break even and he'l
know the campaign was feeling really good about it, feeling like paul ryan has hut romney there and you have a poll like this. the only thing i can say about people moving around so much is they're obviously not happy for obama and they're looking for an all thalternative. what happened was an alternative showed up at the debate and had to meet a certain threshold to say okay, this guy actually, yeah, he could be president, and so what has to happen in the next debate is obama has to convince people that a, no, he's not ready to be president, and b, you've gotta stay with me because we're on the right track, we're moving in the right direction. you don't want to change courses mid stream. > >> shannon: a much tighter race in ohio where the averages are going in favor of the president. of course, that's a key state for anybody who wants to get to the white house. do you think that romney has a chance to break through there because the latest poll out that the obama campaign is citing gives a 5-point edge and it's sometimes an outlier and leans left. they're touting it this morning saying
's vice presidential debate. >> it could be a slugfest. paul ryan is looking to build on the romney's campaign momentum from last week's presidential debate while joe biden will try and slow it. straight ahead, our political team of david gregory and chuck todd weighs on what to expect. and we'll break down the results of our new presidential polls in the all-important battleground states of florida, ohio, and virginia. or as chuck calls them, flova. >>> also today, an investigation tied to the safety of the foods you eat. private companies carry out most of the inspections at plants nationwide. in many cases, they are failing to stop the spread of some very dangerous, sometimes even deadly illnesses. we're going to have more on that.3 c1 >>> let us begin with tonight's big political showdown with vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan. ron mott is in danville, kentucky, hi, ron. >> reporter: good morning to you. this is the day that the number twos become the number ones. tonight vice president joe biden and paul ryan taking center stage at centre college and both men s
the obama team is asking this, quoting now, whether congressman ryan will stand by the extreme positions he and governor romney hold or if he'll dishonestly try to hide his positions by telling voters the exact opposite of what he and mitt romney have run on just like romney did last week. carl cameron is traveling with the governor. he just wrapped autopsy rally in ohio. good evening to you. he was talking today about his position on abortion. how did that come up, carl? >> yesterday when we were in ohio, governor romney was asked by one register to talk about his abortion position and he said he didn't know of any legislation that might come up that would affect his agenda. that caused an instant slam from the obama campaign who suggested romney was changing his position. back in 2005, he was pro-choice prior to that and became pro-life. today on the campaign trail here in ohio, mr. romney was asked again to clarify and this is kind of hard to hear. it was a very crowded restaurant in delaware, ohio. here is what he said. >> i think i said time and again, i'm a pro-life candidate. i'll be
elections. remember governor romney's vice-presidental nominee paul ryan is of course a native of wisconsin. so is he a factor there? we'll take a look at some of the latest polls and maybe you can make up your own mind on that. in wisconsin the unemployment rate is just below the national average and it's in line with what we see for gas prices across the country. not in california but across the country. the number of visits for the president and mr. romney equal there in wisconsin both have visited twice. statistics, teny electorial votes from the state of wisconsin. the the state governor scott walker you know that name well. we'll talk about that factor, the factor of a republican governor with our next guest in just a moment. also as far as polling, though, this is the latest "real clear politics" average, the president pulling away a little bit from mitt romney. not as much as before in the last couple of weeks but up by six points in the state of wisconsin. joining us now craig gilbert the washington bureau chief and national political reporter for the milwaukee "centennial." you've
it was very clear that paul ryan was seen as more of an asset to the romney campaign and joe biden was to the obama campaign. i think the people are watching this vice presidental debate in part to see how well the sort of second in command stand up against each other. but i also think that people kind of watch these debates a little bit like a nascar sport, they want to see who is going to go into the wall, and i think, you know, avoiding gaffes is going to be very, very important for the candidates. jenna: it is like a sporting event in many ways. kathy, it's really nice to have you back with us. we look forward to checking back in with you before election day. thank you. >> thanks a lot. jon: at the last nascar race it seems like everybody went into the wall. jenna: it was a bad one. jon: new fears of another super power spying on the united states. a block-buster report warning about espionage about two giant overseas companies. we'll talk with the house intelligence committee about this threat. efforts to legalize marijuana went up in smoke earlier. one state high school a goo
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